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[0:00] All right, everyone. I'm gonna get rolling here. Um hopefully everybody can hear me fine. Uh hopefully the people on Zoom can hear me as well. I promise to record this. For a lot of the people who did register, weren't able to make it um just due to time constraints, whatever. But I appreciate you all being here in live and in person. And the folks on Zoom, I appreciate that, too. Peptides. Who knows what a peptide is? That's why you're here, right? [laughter] You got a little bit of an idea being amino acid in the body naturally. Yes. Well, the definition of a peptide in general is is a strain of amino acids um hooked together by specific peptide bonds. That's where they're the type of bond that it really is. But it's a it's essentially a string of amino acids. Um you guys have probably heard a lot more about them, hence why you're here. Um, we've got friends, family members taking them. You've heard of people on semiglutide, wiggoi, those are peptides. Yes, we're going to talk a little bit about those guys. You've heard about people taking BPC and TB500 and all these different things and they're saying, "Oh, we're getting all these great results." And you're like, I don't know what the heck these things are. And you're not wrong to be confused, okay? There is so much misinformation, disinformation, and quite honestly, it's just confusing. um peptides in the form that we're talking about as far as like an exogenous peptide administered to a human for the purpose of signaling a process to happen in the body. It's been around for a long time. It sure as heck hasn't just been the last three years. [clears throat] I'm a bodybuilder. Used to be a bodybuilder. I haven't competed since 2017. I don't know if I'm still allowed to call myself a bodybuilder, but um that's been around in the bodybuilding world for a long time. Um couple different ones. And what they what they said back in the day um were, hey, you could take this thing and instead of it being like an anabolic steroid, it will signal your body to release its own growth hormone, say, um which we'll talk about the one that does that. Uh there's other ones that do different things that might allow you to lose fat a little bit. Um one of the big ones for me that I used years and years ago was one called BPC 157 and I used it specifically because I had a um a chest injury. I was a guy much much bigger than I ever was. um was getting filmed by Flex Magazine and we're at a gym in Townage and the whole deal was that Flex Magazine wanted to come up do a video of us all working out and then they wanted to follow us down to my office and watch this, you know, 260 lb bodybuilder get adjusted and put it on their website, what not. So, I don't even know what possessed me to say something like this because Murphy's law, you say something like this, it did go wrong. I said something about a pe a pec tear and I was using regular weight that I had used a billion times. No problems. And on my third rep, I just felt snap. And I was like, well, I'm not adjusting this guy. I promise you, I can't adjust anybody with a a potential torn pec. And as it turns out, it was a partial tear of my pec minor muscle, thank goodness. Um, it was not a complete tear, but in order for me to do my job, I had to have my associate at the time come over and like hold my elbow by my side. But I will tell you that that was the point where I was like, you know what? Here's this peptide thing out there, this BPC157. I've heard a little bit about it. I need to try this because I have to get back to work. Can't have surgery. I don't really have an option. And I used that and honestly it helped a ton. A ton. I was back to doing everything that I wanted to do in about two weeks. Uh no surgeries, no I'm not a big, you know, pill take or anything like that. But here's the catch, right? So [clears throat] 15 years ago when that happened, if you wanted this stuff, what did it tell you? It said for use in lab rats only. [laughter] You know, so you got to research purposes only. you can't do it on yourself. Not human grade. And I'm like, what's the worst that could happen, right? I grow a tail. I don't know. But I tried it and it worked out really well. Now though, unfortunately, we have so much buzz with peptides. Now we've got garbage products coming around from overseas and stuff that's not what it says it is. So this creates a problem because when the market has a demand, people want to try to supply at any cost. And now we're now we're in this situation where we have a lot of this crazy information. So, [snorts] with all this being said, I wanted to bring some of the information that I know that I've learned about peptides, um, bring it to you guys because I'd rather you guys have some information about it and as close to accurate as I can possibly give you um, before you make any decisions on on those types of things. And we'll talk a little bit more about that here momentarily. Um, I do have to give a little disclaimer. Um it's today's seminar is intended for educational purposes only. I'm going to read this part. We'll be discussing peptide therapies that are commonly used in integrative wellness medicine including potential applications, benefits and limitations. Uh nothing presented today should be considered medical advice and individual results can vary significantly. Any recommendations regarding peptide therapy should made be made only after an appropriate consultation and review of your individual history with a medical doctor. I am a chiropractor. I will not give you any recommendations on what peptide you should take. That's my disclaimer. Okay, everybody clear on that? Any questions on that? All right, cool. Here's the deal, though. Realistically, peptides are probably a big big part of the medical future. Tiny little molecules, big results. People are using these for improved energy, uh improved recovery, better body composition, so losing some fat, better health, better and healthier aging, um joint and tissue support, and then better sleep. Like we talked about, peptides are short chains of amino acids and they act as messengers within the body. Think of them like as your body's text messages telling another part of your body, hey, do this, right? Hey, tendon, you should probably try and heal this little injury. Hey, sleep patterns in your brain, you should probably let this person not have only four hours of sleep. They might want to recover a little bit better than that. Um, it can signal things to burn fat more effectively. Um, reduce inflammation. Why have they become so popular? Well, realistically, the popularity outside of the fitness world came in the weight loss world when these GLP medicines um that were originally designed for diabetics started to see people losing weight. So, as you see the weight loss with the GLPs, they're like, "Oo, off label use, more money in weight loss." So that is where peptides have really come up big over the last I'll say I'll say four to five years. Um you know again um ompic I think was was the first one and then we go and you know at first it was like although you may lose some weight we are not allowed to prescribe this for weight loss. Now they're like you can prescribe for weight loss it's cool. So again the market kind of demands what uh what the doctors end up saying. Um, but they do work with the body's natural processes. They can be highly highly targeted to do a very specific thing. Um, they are be using being used by athletes, biohackers, longevity experts, physicians themselves. Like I said, I mean, I've been around this stuff for 15 years. I I know that it it does work. Um, they often have fewer side effects than traditional med medications. Um, who's going to benefit from it? Who may benefit? people struggling with low energy, weight gain, slower recovery, uh joint pain, poor sleep, um reduced muscle mass, chronic inflammation, and then aging concerns as well. With me talking about the bodybuilding world, you know, sometimes people ask me the question, are peptides steroids? And the answer to that is absolutely not. Okay, steroids are hormones. Okay. Specifically, most of the time they're talking about a derivative of testosterone when they talk about steroids. Do they do some of the similar things? Sure. But steroids force your body to change. They're going to suppress your natural testosterone production or if we're giving somebody even a thyroid hormone, what does it do? It tells your body, hey, if you give somebody thyroid hormone, your body says, no, I don't need to make it. We're getting it from the outside. Right? Um most of the hormones do have side effects and uh like I said they are hormones whereas peptides are going to signal a change that happens inside of the body. It encourages more naturalbased processes. Um pretty well tolerated. I'm not going to say that there's no side effects. There's some side effects for some of them. Um but again they are amino chain amino acid chains. the 13 most common peptides according to me. Um, BPC57, these will all make more sense here in a minute. So, I'm just going to rattle these off. BPC57, that was one I was talking about. I did use for my chest. CJC 1295, that was the one that actually uh increases your own body's body's own growth hormone. Tessamel, AODD9604, [snorts] GHK-TU, DIP, TB500, omellin, curlin, matsy, PT-141, thymus and alpha 1, and then like we talked about the GLPS. These three are pretty much what we lump into the world of the recovery peptides. And again, I want you to be able to not come away more confused than you came in because there's a lot of names. There's a lot of things here, but let's try to classify these down into what does what. This is really what I kind of want to get through. Um, the recovery ones pretty much the BPC157, the TB500, and the thymus alpha 1. uh weight loss and metabolism going to be your GLPS the MC C tessamearellin and this AODD9604 healthy aging vitality keep you feeling young the CJC 1295ellin smearellin NAD+ I put that on there I'm not talking about NAD+ tonight but that's a big one in the longevity world too um sleep appearance intimacy PT-141 DIP GHK-U Let's talk about the individual ones here. And again, I'm going to talk allin potentials because everybody's a little different. And we'll talk about how you can find out if it is actually right for you, too.

[10:00] Um, BPC157, it's the recovery peptide. Uh, potential benefits, tendon healing, ligamentous support, muscle recovery, joint support, gut health. Um, we're going to talk about that in a second. Used often in tennis elbow, planter fasciitis, rotator cuff injuries, low back injuries. Um, what I tell my patients is that's really designed to help your body body recover from injuries more efficiently. Generally more towards the tendons and the ligaments. Little less with the muscle, but it does work with the muscle, too. Now, there's a couple different ways to take this. Most of the time, a lot of these peptides are going to come in a either three ways. It's going to come in a little vial that has a powder in it. You got to mix it with a special type of water and then when you mix it with that water, then it gets injected somewhere, right? Um, some of them come already made and some of them come in a little pen and uh, it's a little easier to deal with the stuff that's already made up for you or the pen versus the putting the water in because you got to do math and nobody likes to do math and you have to figure out how much to add and it gets a little confusing. So, I do prefer the ones that come already pre-made in a pen or um, already made up for you. BPC, however, the work the receptors that it works on, you kind of got to get it local. All right? So, if I had my chest, I had to take a little stupid insulin needle and put it right here near my chest. Um, some people will tell you, "Oh, you could put it right in your belly." Well, not really. You're not going to get as good of a result if you put it down here because we're going to heal things up closer to where we put it in. Um, so I'm not a big fan of that unless you combine it with this next one, which is something called BPC or TB500. This is more mobility. Uh, still tissue repair, still reduced inflammation, improved flexibility, enhanced recovery. Again, a lot of people put this with the BPC 157. Again, moving better, recover faster. This one's more of a systemic, right? So, if you were just using this one, yeah, you could put it here and it's kind of going to go everywhere. You combine them and then you get the Wolverine stack. Okay, I didn't come up with that. Um, but it's going to be a little bit more effective overall. It's going to help you improve flex could help you improve um the mobility, the flexibility, tissue healing. Most people who take this say, "Man, I feel I just feel great." Right. Um, this one again, you can go here uh in the stomach because when you combine them, and I I honestly don't know the science as to why this is, but I trust the person who explained it to me and it kind of went pretty smart. Kind of still went over my head. The receptors when they're combined, it kind of travels a little bit better and the BPC does its thing. Um, I would still say if you just had [clears throat] a specific tendon injury and we're just using BPC, the site is a lot better. You might see some pills out there and they say, "Oh, well, who doesn't want to take a pill instead of an injection? I freaking hate needles and I do acupuncture and I get acupuncture. I still hate needles." Um, the pills don't really work so well. Okay. Um, quite honestly, remember what I said about things being a money grab? The demand market requires demand. So, guess what? They they make something to supply that demand. It actually works well for gut issues. If I had, let's say, Crohn's disease, there is some research to say that maybe BPC157 and TB500 or each of them individual taken orally may help repair the gut lining. That's about it. Otherwise, if you're trying to get a muscularkeeletal response by an oral peptide, me, not going to happen. CJC 1295. This was the other one that I tried back when I competed. Um, it is for growth hormone optimization. Uh, who remember do any of you guys watch pro wrestling ever? Remember Andre the Giant? Everybody remembers Andre the Giant, right? Dude was like 7 foot one. He had a big brow and you know his body he had a pituitary tumor. body made more growth hormone than it should, right? Way too much. Some of these bodybuilders back in the day would take this growth hormone at extremely high levels and they would start, yeah, they would get bigger muscles, but they'd also start to look a little Andre the Giantish, you know, get the little Crom magnum brow and uh it's not a great desired thing. And you have a lot of growth hormone receptors around your stomach. So you'd see these bodybuilders who look like they're shredded muscles everywhere with this big old belly and you're like, "How does that even possible?" And a lot of it's because they were using so much growth hormone, exogenous growth hormone, that these receptors in the gut were growing their organs. This however will allow your body to secrete its own natural and never get to like a pathologic state of too much. You're not going to be getting the curl magnum brow by taking the CJC 1295. And it has a lot of anti-aging benefits. Like if you talk in the world of the what growth hormone does, it does it supports lean muscle. It helps you recover. It helps you sleep better. It improves your aging process overall. It is not growth hormone hormone itself. It's just telling your body, hey, release a little bit more of your own naturally. So, that's pretty popular. Um, again, in the recovery world, a little bit of sleep, better sleep, recovery support, healthier aging. Um, it's a pretty easy peptide. It doesn't, you know, make you sick, give you any type of flush reaction, which a couple of the peptides can sometimes make you flush or burn a little bit when you put it in. The epimelan generally does not. So, it's tolerated extremely well. So, people tend to like this one um just because of the broad range of options. CJC25 plus a time where a lot of times people will combine these two. Many times you'll be able to get a little pen and it's got both in there. Okay. So again, better sleep, improved recovery, increased energy, uh lower body fat, and better aging. And you're going to hear these buzzwords. I'm saying the same stuff over because there is some overlap in these. Um so when you end up, if you decide to ever end up trying this stuff, you talk with the doc and you say, "Hey, what do you think is the best? Here's my goals. What do you recommend?" If you're [clears throat] talking to a medical doc, I prefer that you don't go get the ones that are made for lab rats because, you know, I don't think you'll grow a tail, but we don't know. [snorts] Sir, mostly healthy aging. Um, improve vitality, better sleep, improve recovery, lean muscle support. If we're starting to see a little bit of this age related decline, like a man, I just I'm 48. I don't feel like I did when I was 42. This is one of the most popular ones for that. Tessamel. This is a big one outside of the the semiglutide or the GLPS I should say. Um this is a pretty popular one for reducing body fat and it's mostly about the abdominal fat. Um so fat reduction support, lean muscle preservation, metabolic health support. Um, some people, [clears throat] myself included, honestly, I can get pretty lean and then just got a little bit right hanging around here. And this is great for helping to improve that fat loss right around the the waistline. I put that picture up there, too. Um, this is still, you can see that visceral layer behind the red. um that visceral layer of fat. It's still not quite as effective at reducing the visceral fat. It does a little bit, but it doesn't do a ton. It's mostly that layer on top of the musculature there. Um AOD9604, I'll be honest, never tried it. Um it's a newer one. It is again increased fat metabolism for weight loss. It's going to be a I think it's probably another upand cominging one that's going to get a little popular, but it works different than like a stimulantbased weight loss product. Um, we do tend to see in the research a better body composition in a relatively short amount of time. So, um, newer, I'm not as familiar with it, but it is kind of coming up on the radar. So, I wanted to at least include that in here.

[20:00] Matsi um this is a very popular one for energy right I feel sluggish cellular energy a which is ATP um this is a big one so improve metabolism exercise performance healthy aging again it just helps your cells make and produce their energy which again is ATP comes out of the mitochondria when we do our laser here the laser that we have stimulates localized ATP P production. So if I had a tissue, let's say I had a somebody who had a shoulder surgery and I wanted to heal them up faster, I'd use the laser because it's going to bump up the ATP production and make those things heal faster. This is supposed to do that kind of more systemically, if you will. Okay, PT41. And I got a funny story. I picked all these pictures, right? And when you type in a picture like to come up with intimacy, it's like sometimes and even I have like Adobe stock photos. Some things that come up I'm like I can't put that on there. I can't put that on there. I was uh I was laughing. I I had the one and I I was like okay it's sheets covering feet. [snorts] You know what's going counted that there were six feet. I was like I can't put that one there. I just can't put that one there. So, you get roses and candles. But PT-141, [clears throat] uh, they call it the intimacy peptide. And in men, it is a sexual performance support. Women, libido enhancement. Um, it is actually working on the brain. It's not just a blood flow. You know, everybody knows Viagra and Seialis and stuff like that. That's pushing more blood flow to an area. This is actually stimulating at a brain level. So, a little bit different. uh dip [sighs] predominantly about sleep. Um, I have some patients that over the years I wish that this was a more popular, you know, some people like to sleep in two and three hours. And it's my job is to make people feel better. And it's really hard to get people to feel better if you can only get two and three hours of sleep at night. And I mean all the melatonin and all the uh valyan complex and GABAS and all this stuff. But this one seems to do pretty well if you're really struggling with sleep. So you fall asleep easier, get more restorative sleep. again improve recovery. Uh thymus and alpha one. This is immune support for the folks who are always sick. I get sick at the turn of the dime. Yeah. Every time I'm in the winter time, I get sick. I get sick. So, this is more helping you to have a healthy inflammatory response because your body does need a certain amount of inflammatory change to fight off colds, fight off infections. We need some of that inflammation. Um but it's just overall immune system support. jury's kind of out how this works with people who have any autoimmune. So, if um if somebody had an autoimmune disorder, I don't necessarily know um I'd have the really long and detailed conversation with your prim with your doctor who's prescribing this um before that, but again, outside of outside of the autoimmune world, I think from an immune sports pretty good idea. Um and then we're going to talk about the GOP ones. GLP1 is your semiglutide. Tzepide which tepatide actually works on two receptors. It's the GIP which is glucose dependent insulin insulinotropic polyeptide and then also the GLP which is glucagon like peptide. So that's what the GLP1 stands for. Um so semiglutide works on just the GLP1. uh tzepide works on the GIP and the GLP-1 and then lag glutide on it. I mean it's you shift one little molecule, it does something different. They can slap a new patent on it and that's really what they're looking for. These they all basically do the same stuff. Um Teptide might be a hair better for some people as far as overall results, but they work by helping to regulate your appetite. Um decrease your hunger overall, calm down some of the food cravings. I'm a cookie guy. Um cookie and sometimes chocolate. Uh people who are on this stuff say I I don't really want it, you know. Um it helps to empty the stomach sometimes. Talk about that in a second. Um so again, potential benefits reduced appetite, improve portion control, weight loss support, and um improves blood improves your blood sugar management. So it kind of takes your how the body reacts to sugar when it gets in your body is it spikes insulin. So there's this back and forth pattern all the time between sugars and insulin. And when your body stops doing it correctly, that's usually when we start storing fat. Your body starts storing more signals and then eventually that can lead to diabetic concerns which is again this is how these guys all kind of came to be found is through the diabetic research. Um, if somebody's got a really hard appetite though, they've had pretty good success with this. Big side effect with the GLPS is [snorts] been gut paralysis. So, remember it said stomach emptying. Yeah. When it works. So, um, people literally just they take it and like I don't go to the bathroom anymore. And so it's it's sort of losing favor in the medical world. Um if you went and asked your primary care, they're not going to know about anything I talked about until this one. I mean, that's just the truth. Unless they're into the biohacking world or uh they were in the bodybuilding world before or something like that, chances are they don't know anything about peptide. I have a um orthopedic surgeon who said he's like Craig, every single patient that comes into me asks now about peptides after surgery. I don't know it. I don't want to know about it. I just want my patients to get well. You know about it. You have the right people in your team that can get them this. They all come to you. So that those calls started this past week. um they the docs will know a little bit about the GLPS, but if you ask them if it's a peptide, they probably wouldn't even know that. They just know it because they get a lot of stuff handed to them by Osmpic and we go, they get the uh the marketing materials. So, GLP2 is a little different. It affects the digestive tract and the intestinal lining. Um more about gut barrier support. So making sure that the the food that's supposed to go through you, you get some that you absorb and some that you shouldn't you shouldn't. So that gets excret excreted by waste. Sometimes the gut lining gets a little perforated and it's not so hot and you'll like leak out stuff into the system. This is often called leaky gut syndrome. um it is often sometimes mistaken for autoimmune concerns because the body is now taking food and it's attacking it with the immune system. Um this helps that theoretically. So intestinal repair, better nutrient absorption, better digestive health. Um why does that matter? You're going to have better energy. You're going to have better immunity in general. You're going to recover better. It's going to be overall wellness. Yeah, you're probably still going to lose a little bit of weight. Um but think of that as more about health creating a healthier environment inside the the digestive tract. Um GLP3s these are probably the next generation of these. They are weeks away from getting the FDA approval apparently maybe less. Um the the name of it is called reatride is the the most common one or people will call it rea because reatride is kind of a tongue twister. I didn't name it. Sorry. But it is a triple agonist peptide. So it's like the GLP1, the GI GIP and the glucagon all together. Seems to be thus far the safest and the most effective of these GLPS. Um it act it works with like I said three different metabolic pathways. the GLP-1 receptors, GIP receptors, glucagon receptors, pretty significant weight loss, almost no appetites and cravings. All the again, the bodybuilders that I know that have dabbled in the peptide worlds, they're loving this stuff. They're like, "Yeah, I can do a whole show prep, but I'm not even hungry." You know, I don't even I don't even want like the cookies, you know? They're They'll still eat because you can't do a show and not eat. Can't do a bodybuilding show and come up and show all this muscle and just starve yourself the whole time. you're going to eat less. But if if I didn't crave peanut butter during a show, I don't know what I would do. I haven't done it since these things have been around. But that's usually my downfall, man. You know, you're supposed to get like a tablespoon of of peanut butter. So that means as much as I can possibly fit on the spoon,

[30:00] that's that was my tablespoon of peanut butter, which is why I probably never won a lot of shows. Um, but yeah, may improve metabolic health. Again, the blood sugar regulation, calorie expenditure. A as we go about our day, we're going to expend certain calories. This is going to increase the amount of calories that we're expending. Um, helps preserve the lean muscle mass. If I'm not eating as much because I don't have a diet, uh, I don't have an appetite. I could be losing that muscle mass. This does help to preserve the lean muscle mass even in a caloric deficit. Um, what makes the difference? all the same stuff I just said, so I'm not going to repeat myself. But, uh, overall, this is probably the next phase. And as soon as that FDA label gets slapped on it, you guys are going to be hearing and seeing about 18 million commercials a day for this stuff. How do we feel about this stuff? And in the in the medical community, in the wellness community, because um beriatric surgery, for example, um if somebody went 15 years ago, before any of this stuff, and they they were, let's say they were pushing 350, which is not a healthy weight for your joints. So that means chances are I'm going to have to work a lot harder to keep you well, help help get you well. and then they went and did a gastric bypass or a lap band or some sort of stomach surgery to help them lose weight. What we would see with a lot of that is you didn't change any of the habits. You couldn't eat because you were just like throwing up or sick. Um, and we would sit there and tell our patients, "Hey, last resort. Let's do this because it's not good to be walking around 350 pounds. you're probably going to have uh cardiac concerns. We're going to have more joint concerns. You're going to be having hip replacements, knee replacements, so forth. But we prefer you to just maybe eat a little less and control the appetite and get healthier overall because if I've got all this fat buildup on my cardia on my heart around my paricardium, me getting a lap band surgery is not going to take that away. Right? [snorts] So, some of this stuff now as a physician, we're like, you know, this seems to be a safer way for people to lose weight. Is it maybe as quick of a fix? Maybe not. Is it more expensive? I don't know. I guess it's probably a little bit more expensive because right now insurancees aren't covering a lot of this stuff. But yeah, insurance might cover your gastric bypass, but so I I actually had a patient who said, "I have to gain 20 more pounds before the insurance covers my gastric bypass." I was like, "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard." [snorts] Just the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So, I think that there comes a time, especially in these GLP worlds, that it is going to be a better situation. And we're hoping that maybe there's not even just GLP3, maybe we have GOP4, multiple things down the line because the science on this is ongoing. It is hard to keep up. It's hard as a physician to keep up and it's going to be even harder for you guys to keep up, too. But continue to read, continue to listen. I'm going to do my best to kind of keep everybody on the information train with some of this, but um common questions. Number one, are they safe? We kind of talked a little bit about that. Um, when they're prescribed appropriately and monitored by a health care professional, you a lot of times docs want labs before they'll prescribe something. If you go in and you say, you know, I want um I want GLPs, they might want to look at your blood sugars, as they should, right? Um, they're not hormones. They don't need to test your hormone level. Um, but are they legal? Yeah, many peptides are available through licensed medical providers, compounding pharmacies. Um, not all of them, but even some of the things that are off like the rea right now, it is available. It's just hasn't gotten that FDA approval for the weight loss side of thing. You can get it, but um they're you don't see the commercials just yet. Um, and it is like how quickly do they work depends upon the person. It's kind of a generic answer and I'm sorry if it comes off generic, but that's the truth. Um, some people notice the changes in weeks, some people notice the changes in days. Um, some people it's more months, but you should be seeing something, you know, and if you're not seeing something, especially if you didn't get this peptide from a reputable source, I don't know what you got. You might have got a jar of baby powder. I don't I'm just kidding. But you might not have got something that was meant to actually be for you. So always use the proper routes. What makes them different? U most healthc care focuses on managing symptoms. Peptide therapy is going to be supporting the body's natural healing and recovery mechanism. So it's sort of band-aid versus construction group, right? I could put a band-aid on a crack or I can go in and totally rebuild the house. We're trying to do the rebuilding, not just covering up the symptoms. Why did I consider adding this into my practice? Um, I'm a chiropractor, right? So, I'm more about natural health. I'm not a big fan of drug surgery. I'm not opposed to them when they're needed. I don't have a problem with it. I've had knee surgery, face surgery, some other things. So, um, I'm not opposed to it. But most of the things you'll see around my practice are things that I feel enhance the body's natural processes, not just alter it. Right? So, we don't want you to have to wait. We don't want you to have to mask the symptoms. Um, we don't want you to have to say, "Ah, that's just normal aging." Because it's really not. There's many people right now that look at aging more as um a disease process because if you can remove some of the things that are happening at that cellular level, we actually find that aging doesn't have to happen the way we just accepted it. So many years peptides kind of help bridge that gap um between traditional care, recovery medicine, healthy aging. And I was so sick of people getting garbage that wasn't real. And you know, where'd you Oh, you're on a peptide. Where'd you get it? I got it from my buddy Jim and he got it from China. It's just not good stuff. So, I'm not saying everything that they got was illegitimate, but why wouldn't you have the ability to go through somebody you know, somebody you trust, and somebody who is going to have it from a compounding US-based pharmacy and shipped right to you. So, that's why I added that. And I put this up here. I don't really want to live to 90 if my quality of life sucks. Okay. Yeah. If my quality of life is down, I don't I just don't I don't really want to be around. So, it's not about living longer. It's about adding the life to your years, right? So, if you really want results for something like that, it's going to take more than one thing. It doesn't ju I I can't do it with just chiropractic. I can't do it with just food and nutrition. I can't do it with just medicine. I want to use everything that I have at my disposal to make that goal a reality where I am adding the life to my ears. So, yeah, I'm a big on chiropractic care chiropractor. Surprise, right? Um, exercise, nutrition, recovery, sleep, and yeah, the peptides. Um, I I can count on one hand the number of peptides that I've used over the years. So I talked to you about the C the CJC and the BPC. I've used NAD+ for a bit. Um I've used the epomellin and I have used smearin. That's it. Over the next probably five years. I probably use about 10 of them. Okay. I'm pushing that 50 and I feel good. I feel healthy. I look at some of my peers when I got a 30-year class reunion coming [clears throat] up. Um I know some of you guys are past that but I had it. For me it's a little rough. got that 30 year coming up and I see some of my friends and I don't feel like I'm too far off. I feel like I'm looking pretty good for my age. That being said, if I can do better, I want to do better, right? Um, with what we have added, here's how this works. I partnered with an MD who's an Ohiobased doctor and he had he has a group of physicians that if you go on our website pinnacle chiropractic or pinnacle.com um you can just go down and like the under services like the fourth one down it says peptide intake or peptides and hormone replacement. The hormone replacement's coming. It's not there yet. um we're not that's a totally separate conversation. But for the people who are extremely low testosterone or um estrogen problems, whatnot, we will have that available. There's some FDA issues with teleaalth right now. So once that gets straightened out, we'll have the hormone replacement. But for right now, you can go and you can see the peptides and do the peptide intake. It gives you a list. A lot of the ones we talked about tonight are are on there. Um, we try to make it all the finished good stuff, so you don't have to do the math of, you know, figuring out the um the putting how much water you you do or don't have to put in. Um, I just changed

[40:00] that. We did have some powders in there before, but now we're down to just the ones that you can just get that's already made for you. Um, and then after that, after you pick kind of, hey, I want maybe this one, there's going to be a doctor on the other end and it does what's called an asynchronous consultation. They look at all the stuff you filled out. They make you fill out a lot of stuff. Look at all the stuff that you fill out and if they say what you wanted is pretty reasonable, they'll be like, "Okay." And they send it to you. But it's a doctor reviewed thing. It's actually prescribed and it is coming from a US-based pharmacy. um that that asynchronous consultation can take a a couple days for the doctor to kind of put their stuff in. Most of the time, a couple days. Um I'll be honest, I've struggled a little bit with the computer side of things with this company. I had an hour call with them last night and another one this morning. So, it looks to be that everything is finally working as it's supposed to be. But yes, you get a a doctor consultation. Now, let's say you say, "I want all this stuff." And they're like, "No way." They're calling you up. Okay? They'll do a teleaalth consultation with you, say, "This isn't appropriate for you. Let's do this. Let's do this." So, it it is not me doing it, but because like I said, I'm not a medical doctor, but we do have a medical doctor that's going to look at this and say, "This is appropriate for you. These are your goals. This is what you asked for. Here you go. Send it off." And they'll keep in touch with you. um what do I do in the process? This I could talk to you about educational piece pieces with it. When I do this stuff, it can be a long and drawn out conversation. And some of you guys may be like, "Cool, I know what I want." And you already wrote down. You see a lot of people pens and paper. Cool with that. Um some of you may say, "I'm more confused than ever, doc." Well, if you guys want at any point, I'm offering my services up. Normally an exam consultation with me is 179 bucks. If you were here, you want to come in, come in and we'll schedule you. Say, "Hey, I came to the came to the seminar and I'd like to chat about the peptides." All I'm going to do, I'm not going to recommend a thing, but if you have more questions, I'm I'm going to do my best to answer them for you. Um, additionally, for those of you who are like, "Cool, I know what I want. I know what I think I want." If you use this little code pinn26, it's 10% off of your next order. That's only going to be up until the end of June. So once the end of June's up, that coupon's gone. You can use it multiple times, but once it's there, it's it's gone. [clears throat] The other thing is, like I said, if you're interested in the world of healthy aging, we have other things here. This place is pretty big. I've got all This entire side of this office was added in order to try to make people be able to have a healthier body overall. We added laser. We added physical therapy, dry needling. I've done added the acupuncture. We have spot cryo in there that does uh fat loss stuff. Infrared sauna, hyper bear, um whole body cryotherapy. Everything's in here. So, if you have interest in that stuff, I will also give you a little thing here. Um, you guys, any packages that we have, we have package deals on stuff, right? Because I like to save people money. Sometimes my accountant thinks I'm stupid, which I probably am, but I like to save money by doing packages. It takes prices way down. So, if you have any interest in any type of package whatsoever, they're all 15% off. Courtney's sitting up front. She can answer questions about any of those and answer questions about any possible. Again, I'm not here to try to sell you anything. I just want to give you an offer. If you walk out and don't buy a thing or don't buy any peptides, buy it from somewhere else. I don't care. I'm not a salesy person. Um, but I like to give people offers and if it works, cool. If it doesn't, that's cool, too. Um, [snorts] that is the end of the presentation. I know there's like eight billion questions probably running through everybody's mind. I could spend another two hours here answering everybody's individual questions. Excuse me. So what I will ask is in lie of that a couple different options. Number one, email me. You [clears throat] can email me at contact co-acct pinnacle.com. and I'll do my best to answer you or like I said, set up the consultation. There's no charge. Um, I'm not setting those up tonight. I will have to have you call [cough] because Michelle uh didn't she started work this morning about 6:30. She's like, I'm not staying tonight with a schedule. So, [snorts] I have you guys give her a call. They're in tomorrow at 9 and again Saturday. So, yes. Yes. Contact co n t a c t at p i n a c l e c h i o.com contact at pinnaclero.com one more time c o n that's all right t a c at p i n a C L E C H I R O.com C H I R You got it. You got it. Absolutely. Um if it's not any crazy question, does anybody have any anything small? Any small questions? Um does that um support injuries anything that has tendon ligamentous or um tissue repair that's needed in theory? Yes. Again, I have to watch my disclaimer here. In theory, yes. Um it it just signals the body to do its best. You're not laying down Um, like say for example, I I ripped my rotator cuff, which is true. I had two 70% tears in two different rotator cuffs earlier this year. It pulls away. I have a couple options. I can use the BPC and signal it and it'll try to heal with as good as it possibly can. I also used stem cells at that point to give my body a base of more stuff to use, more cells because the body's not always super effective as we get older to recruit new stem cells to turn into those tendons. So, a little bit of a double whammy. So, it won't bring new raw material to the area, but it will stimulate the body to go through its natural healing processes better. Okay. a reliable source to be to get the So, inside of this website, um, first off, they're supposed to send you all the instructions, which I know they did not. Um, because this is she ordered and got into the the computer issues. So, yours went out and the doctor never even like it was it was a computer error. It was not the function of that. But um I have an entire calculator that I have access to. [snorts] Really important. Yeah. But there is this calculator is going to be put on their website. Is it on there? Did you find it? Yeah. Yours was fixed. Hers wasn't. I you if you log back into your patient portal, it may be there. It wasn't as of earlier today. Okay. I'll make sure that I got some yesterday. I got the rest of it today. I will make sure I'll make sure that the calculator gets available to you. Okay. Because I think it it was just something was missing in the back end. It was all a computer glitch. So in in light of that though, so say I'm trying a new peptide, like would the dosages be um the same across the board for anybody then no always look at so that's where I'm asking always always look at wait and this is going to sound really crazy and I I promise I've double checked this but you can AI it you can chat GBT you can say I am a 48-year-old male I weigh 216 pounds I am looking to improve my tendon repair and I want to try BPC57 how would I dose this best. It's actually going to give me a pretty close answer. Again, I I can't even I can't even really give you it. I can give you these tools and it's all going to be theoretical, but MDs can do that on that end with the the doctor that didn't do a side view, which is why this was a problem. So, um the the calculator is good for an overall, especially like with um not just dosages, but reconstitutions and stuff like that if you're trying to fill up the water.

[50:00] insurance. Right now, the only thing you're going to end up getting covered is probably the GLPS. Um, and if you went to the medical doctor, they can probably cover that. But you they it depends upon how they write it up. As with anything, if they're writing it up for um weight loss, sometimes they'll do it now, whereas if you wrote it up for a diagnosis, when I whenever I build something, I have to put a diagnosis code and a procedure code, and they have to put a here's the drug code, too, right? And then the insurance company says, "Okay, cool." Um, if that diagnosis code doesn't match the indications for that product, they're like, "No, we're denied." [snorts] So, it really kind of depends upon how they write it up. And unfortunately, like I said, the medical docs outside of the GLPs aren't really familiar with this stuff. How soon might it happen? I don't know. RFKs in in the HHS stuff. He's a pretty big proponent from peptides. They're trying to remove they just actually did remove the um there's like a controlled substance label that was slapped onto a lot of these products I talked about tonight. That is now removed. doesn't mean that you can just go buy them at the grocery store, but it does mean that it's not treated the same way as like heroin, which nor should it have ever been the BPC. Oh, the the 179. So, you're not paying that. That's just what it would cost if you wanted to come in and talk to me. You don't pay a thing. It's free. So, yeah. Yep. With the peptides. So, If I don't keep up with strict food and nutrition and possibly also exercise peptide is still doing its job. Whatever goal you are looking for will do better if you eat good and exercise and all that stuff, right? So, it's still going to do its job. I could take um let's say I could take Retta and if I had an appetite for McDonald's, which I wouldn't, but if I did have it, I'm not going to do as good if I go and eat McDonald's versus eating some like lean chicken and stuff like that. It's still going to do its job. Is it going to do it as effectively as it would have if I ate better? No, of course not. But um the idea of these things is to kind of give you a little bit of a jump start. And why don't people exercise? Why don't they Why don't they eat well? Most of the time they have cravings for crappy stuff. Again, I'm a cookie guy. And then why don't we exercise? Cuz it freaking hurts. It's not always because it it's a time thing, right? If exercise hurts then and you don't feel good, it's not fun. So, I'm weird and I enjoy it no matter what. But if even when I am hurt and sick, I always feel better when I'm done. But that being said, sometimes it's like, man, I just don't have it in me. So, if you're feeling better because of the peptides, chances are you're going to want to eat better. You're going to want to exercise more. They're still going to do their job inside of your body. Um, you just might not get as faster results. also made a statement that all my question is how how does that doctor take how they're coming up to that. So when you do this, you have an intake form and you do have to put in a medical history. So and really they're looking at do you have any major contraindications? Are you asking for two or three things that do the exact same thing? They would be like, well, why do you want all of those? Nobody would look at somebody and say, okay, cool. I got Retta, I got GLPs, I got GLP ones or GLP ones, twos, and threes. They'd be like, "Why are you getting all that?" No, we're not going to do that because that's their license on the line. If somebody took all of those, they'd probably jack up their pancreas really badly, right? Because that's just too much. Um, so that's what they're looking at, not so much of um trying to control you. And if they have a problem too and it's they think that it's an issue of what you asked for, they're gonna call you talk on the information you're putting down. Correct. Yeah. Cool. Yep. I would say yes. Yes, for sure. Um, and here's the number one reason for that. If you are a diabetic and you started taking some of these, chances are you might not need the same medications that you were otherwise on. If I was diabetic and I was taking metformin, I probably am not going to need as much metformin. If I'm insulin dependent, I may find that I am no longer insulin dependent. These are important things to know. So, um, same thing with like blood pressure and cholesterol, right? Some of these things are going to drop down your um your blood pressure. So if I'm taking a blood pressure medication and my blood pressure is too low, too low can be worse than too high, right? So uh we we need to have them at least aware. Chances are they're going to look at you and go, "What's a peptide?" But you say, "Hey, I I learned about it here, here, and here, and this is what it's meant to do. I just want you to be aware because I'm on drugs XYZ." Yeah. Yeah. How do you go about finding out? [snorts] Um I always tell people to be an advocate for their own health, you know, and it it's kind of annoying to have to go and run into the primary care every time you want to take a blood pressure, but [snorts] everywhere will allow you to do that. And this is just one example. Everywhere allow you to do that. Go to the fire station, get your blood pressure checked. If you start seeing that dip down, I I'm starting to get other symptoms. I'm dizzy. I don't I'm too tired now. These are things that might indicate, okay, blood pressure is too low. Um, cholesterol is another one. You know, they put you on these statin drugs that rob your body of co-enzyme Q10, cause a bunch of muscle aches and stuff, and they they do it to bring this number down that's theoretically supposed to be tied with uh cardiac disease, which I'll be honest, it's not. That's a again totally different conversation. Um, but it causes people to be very achy and you what you might see is as your cholesterol comes down, if you're on these statins, your ache, your joint aches might be coming up instead of coming down. You're like, I'm supposed to be on this stuff and I feel worse. I feel more achy, but I'm taking a statin. Maybe I don't need to be on that statin anymore. Why don't I run some blood work and see if I still need that? And that was the next thing I was going to say. Everybody should probably have the blood done once every six months, especially if you're taking something like this, right? So blood work is and again advocate for yourself. Hey doc, you haven't run blood for like a year. Can we run blood? One last thing. Yeah. this peptide that's pre-made. Is this like a pin or is this? That's a subjective question. [laughter] Subjective answer, I guess. They're little. They're generally little. It is not a big old needle. Um, it's usually the size of like an insulin needle. So, pretty small. Yeah, it's Yeah, it's Yeah, the pre-mades it's like a pen. It just drops in and yeah, you barely notice it. As somebody who does acupuncture on patients, it's not as small as the acupuncture needles, but my best friend as a pain management doctor, so when he stabbed my shoulder with those stem cells, I'm looking away because of the size of the needle. It's nothing like that. So, they're little tiny short small gauge needles. You mentioned something about people. It was just the the ones that are I forget which one which one I was talking about was that um it was the thymus alpha one thyosin alpha 1 because it is designed to like boost your immune system. If somebody has an autoimmune disorder and you boost the immune system it could actually make you a little bit worse. So that's one I probably would be very cautious about jumping to potentially the mix. Yeah. Yeah. And that's that's out there, you know, that's on the website. It's just I didn't talk about that. I chose to not talk about Yes. So I was I thought I saw the glow on there. It is. It's It's the number glow. There's You have glow, right? Yeah. So, the only pre pens you can get is glow. You can't get the club. Let me check. Glow, but then the pen itself, the picture shows. It's probably just an image issue. Okay. It is one of those things because I was like, "Oh, I can't wait to try the clothes." So, it's if it says that it's that it's coming from the pharmacy as the the quote, but again, these are web nerds designing the stuff behind the scenes. They probably just grabbed the wrong pick. Yeah. Yeah, it's if it says that on there because I know that that's available. I didn't look at the picture itself, but that's probably all they did is they just used the wrong pick. I will double check that and I'll get back with you. Cool. Well, thank you guys very much. I appreciate everybody's time and attention. Um, if any of the packages sounded interesting, Courtney's up

[1:00:00] there. Um, and then like I said, if you want to set up some time with me, just give Michelle a call tomorrow and we'll go from there. Thank you. Thank you, Zoom. I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Doc. You use the CJC? Yes.